Oh, my God...

[ikyrian]

A long time ago, Karlene and I had a rather strange conversation late at night which involved the speculation as to whether Ents (from LotR), were sexual at all, and if so, if they had slash relations. (After watching the Extened Edition DVD of TTT, I can say now, yes, ents are sexual. I think I would've known that if I had actually read the books...)

Anyway, after posting this to LJ, Mary had commented that there is probably a fanfic of Ent slash. And, dammit, she was right! Behold! Legolas/Ent slash fanfic~!

http://www.dombillijah.com/users/eyebrowofdoom/fics/aweight.html

That's just fuckin' scary, man!

Comments

[thefakeheadline.livejournal.com]

Ahaha, excellent! I knew fandom wouldn't disappoint me in the World of Pain category. *g*

Though, hell, maybe it's *good* Legolas/Ent. If I ever get over my initial snicker reaction, I'll let you know about that. ;)

[ikyrian.livejournal.com]

Please do! I didn't have the stomach myself to read it. *shakes head* Some things should be just been left unsaid, unwritten, and most of all unknown. This is a prime example of things should be left unwritten. *shudders*

And it has photomanips too! That's just a scary visual place!

[eyebrowofdoom.livejournal.com]

Hmm. I think you may be being a little... literal -- lacking playfulness -- in your reading of the rhetorical project. I wouldn't see Legolas/Ent sex as something that *exists* prior to my sharing of a sublime/absurd imagining. It's not, thus, subject to being known or unknown, to being right or wrong.

:)

-the author

[ikyrian.livejournal.com]

*blinks* wow. the author replied. *is still shocked that the author even knew about this entry* huh.

Actually, the story wasn't that bad when I finally did read it. While still oddly squicked by the whole idea, it definately wasn't as bad as it could have been. Nor was it as bad as I was imagining. It was mostly just the *idea* of it all that really made me shudder. A knee-jerk reaction of "eeeewww," if you will. It was a moment like realizing that your parents still have sex and your young impressionable mind really, truly, absolutely does not want to think about things like that.

Years later, I *still* don't want to think about that.

Anyway, I'm not so sure if I'm lacking in playfulness where it could just be a lack of tolerance for really really really *really* weird/strange things. Like sheep porn. Or tentacle sex.

[eyebrowofdoom.livejournal.com]

I found it in my site referrer stats.

So your parents are Ents...? ;)

*wonders how old you are... looks in userinfo... no help there* That your parents have sex is something you have to come to terms with if you want to come to terms with sex itself. I can't pretend to psychoanalyse you, but it seems like your idea of the superlatively weird (and thus disgusting) is specifically sexual, and that seems to posit sexuality as a site of anxiety.

My point was quite a subtle one so I'll try to make it again. Ents, unlike your parents, don't exist, and so their having sex doesn't exist either: it's not subject to coming to terms or not coming to terms, not subject to tolerance or intolerance. A story about it doesn't have any kind of straightforward declarative force. It's a thought experiment in eroticism (hence the issue of playfulness).

:)

[ikyrian.livejournal.com]

I think we're both over-analyzing each things. Let me put this way:

1.) I don't care if my parents have sex. Whatever makes them happy. What I don't want to think about is the visual of them having sex. I am a visual person; when I think of things, I generally have a picture in my head about what I'm thinking. Visualizing my parents having sex is not my favorite thing to visualize. (Although, the more I think about it, the easier it gets, and it doesn't bother me anymore.)

2.) I'm a rather screwed up person and I could have sexual anxiety. Who knows? *shrugs* I could also be a raging homicidal maniac plotting the destruction of the world and you would never know. Does that bother you?

3.) Weird does not always equal disgusting. It was a little weird to think that my parents have sex (mostly because I never really thought of them as sexual beings, they're my parents. Why would I want to think of them having sex?), but I don't think the idea that they have/have had sex as disgusting. Sheep porn is weird and disgusting. Tentacle sex (i.e. a portion of hentai) is also weird and a little disgusting.

4.) I know it's not a coming to terms story nor a tolerance story. In fact there was not real driving point, no deep hidden meaning. In your own words it's just porn. I just went to a scary visual place in techincolor with full 5.1 Dolby Surround Sound when I read the pairing. Doesn't that ever happen to you? And don't you want to tell people you know and have already had a giggle over it so you can giggle over it again?

And why does it seem to bother you so much that I might not get it? Why are you trying so hard to explain this to me? Do you really think that, ultimately, I didn't get it? (It took a little while, mostly for the squick factor to go down.) But I did read it after the fact and was highly amused. And did you ever consider that maybe the reason I posted the entry about your work was also a little in joke from a previous entry, and that if I stumbled onto a different work, I never would have made mention to yours? Ever? I wouldn't have brought it back up, there need not be anymore mention of such things. Did you ever consider that if there hadn't already been some previous connection in my mind, I probably wouldn't have been on the lookout for something like it and, then having found it, would've just passed it by as some randomly weird author trying to freak people out?

[eyebrowofdoom.livejournal.com]

I must say, I can't see any danger of overanalysis, when you're telling me that you resent analysis here and wish I would go away. And I'd suggest that a scenario where you're a homicidal maniac is not a good argument for an entitlement to passive tolerance.

But okay.

some randomly weird author trying to freak people out

This makes it very clear that you've barely understood a thing I've said. But if you're happy that way, okay.

[ikyrian.livejournal.com]

And this comment just proves that you've completely missed *my* point. And totally ignored my questions. And took a sentence completely out of context and turned it into a major insult, which it really wasn't meant to be. But, oh well. C'est la vie.

[moebius8.livejournal.com]

The author is being nice and considerate to you, don't be an ass.

[serai1.livejournal.com]

some randomly weird author trying to freak people out?

That's really amazingly rude. The author is being very tolerant, considering how you initially dismissed her idea without even reading it. If your sensibilities are so delicate, what are you doing reading slash in the first place?

What I'd like to know is what's wrong with Ent slash? I love trees, have lived in an actual forest, and can totally understand why someone would write such a story. It's not my area of slash, but you know what? Sexual fantasies are nothing to laugh at. You may think the idea of elf/Ent slash is weird, but I can guarantee you there's someone out there that would think your fantasies are insanely funny/squicky/ridiculous. There's a saying about stones and glass houses, and it's a very useful one.

[quinctia]

Sometimes I laugh at my own fantasies. Chill. XP

[(Anonymous)]

Context. Context is everything. If you look at things without it you will be continually misled. Politician's spin doctors do a lot of spinning by omitting context.
The comment about "some randomly weird author" was referring to her initial reaction, not her current opinion. In fact, she said she now finds the story amusing. Also, why doesn't she have the right to be squicked by a pairing? She isn't saying that no one's allowed to write it, just that she disliked it at first thought.
In closing, be tolerant of other people's opinions and pay attention to _context_.

[daniidebrabant.livejournal.com]

Nodnod.

[the13thsquirrel.livejournal.com]

I never would have even thought of that. I'm....terrified.

[ikyrian.livejournal.com]

Isn't it absolutely frightening? What's even scarier is that Karlene and I had thought of an idea similar to this long before I ever stumbled on this story. (I think we talked about it right before school started up again...) Our excuse is that it was fairly late when we started in on the idea.

[eyebrowofdoom.livejournal.com]

But I thought "some things should be just been left unsaid... and most of all unknown"?

Bwaha.

Sorry, I am not going to spam your thread or anything, I just couldn't resist the contradiction here.

[ikyrian.livejournal.com]

And they should be. I didn't say it was good or even a serious look at it. It was mostly a "what if?" that had us giggling through the very early morning until we decided it was time for bed. It was just filk and not at all excplicit. The concept was more to the side than the actual point of the "work."

[the13thsquirrel.livejournal.com]

Ha! Talk about a touchy author. ::didn't notice the first time through:: I don't think anyone actually cares what's being written or why; in my own scheme of things, it falls into the category of items that concern me not at all - I'll stick to Xena/Gab scenarios or something out of Queer As Folk.